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2022-09-19, 12:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-09-19, 01:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-09-19, 01:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-09-20, 12:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
I feel like the Giant was specifically trying to wind up the contributors to this thread in the first panel of the latest strip (this one, for the benefit of the people of the future).
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2022-09-20, 01:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
Well, typing it on a forum isn't literally saying it out loud, so we got around O-Chul!
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2022-09-20, 06:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
I mean, hasn't the Giant been poking fun at us for at least a book or two?
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2022-09-20, 08:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
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2022-09-20, 10:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
Normally I'd think astronomy is under Knowledge (nature), since the rules say that covers “seasons and cycles”. However, #1099 1st panel makes me unsure, maybe in the OoTS world it's Knowledge (religion) that covers astronomy.
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2022-09-20, 10:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
Or that one might be a Cloistered Cleric.
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2022-09-20, 11:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
No, it doesn't. The various capabilities the characters list are things that aren't represented by their skills or feats, since Roy asked about them after the group assembled "a complete record of all [their] skills, feats, spells known and magic items possessed". If, eg, Durkon had ranks in Craft (basketweaving), they would have included that in the record and he wouldn't have felt a need to mention it when they were listing things they hadn't already recorded.
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2022-09-20, 12:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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I agree.
"I took a course", "You studied it six years" or "I know crochet" means not much. Making smoke rings is not even a skill.
Belkar claiming to being a soapmaker? Well, it depends on the end result. Every character can make a pointy stick, but "Fletcher" is a profession.
As granpa Greenhilt says, "It don't mean a thing if you ain't paid for that swing". The title of the page is "No Skill Point", so until proved the opposite, it's just flavour talking.
"I'm an experienced beekeeper", on the other hand, is probably a skill. Apparently warriors takes Animal Husbandry very seriously.
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2022-09-20, 12:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm inclined to agree, they've got their character sheets in front of them, this is a self-aware stick figure parody with the rulebooks available as in-game items and knowing that there are PCs and NPCs and people able to find prestige classes in old third-party source books they find in the discount bin.
Those are their character sheets. The stuff they're discussing now is their backstories. Anything they get from those is just a circumstance bonus.
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2022-09-20, 05:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-09-20, 10:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-09-21, 05:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
I think it's not specific to Thor. It's the Animal domain, available to any cleric, which makes it easier for them to learn Knowledge (nature). I know it sounds stupid at first, but consider it for a moment.
Tinna uses Astronomy to make horoscopes, which are based on the twelve signs of the zodiac. We know that the twelve signs of the zodiac is used for astrology at least on the southern continent, so I expect it's used in the North too, only perhaps they're using a third kind of zodiac (OotS south uses the real world Chinese zodiac, OotS west the western zodiac). Most of the twelve signs of the zodiac are animals and vermin, in both Chinese and western astrology. Of the Chinese zodiac, all but Dragon are based on animals. Of the western zodiac, Aires, Taurus, Leo, Capricornus, Pisces are based on animals, Cancer and Scorpio on vermin, making at least seven of the twelve signs. So Knowledge (nature) and a domain named Animals sounds to me like the most relevant Knowledge skills for making zodiacs. That's in addition to the description of the skill straight up mentioning “seasons and cycles”.
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2022-09-21, 09:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
Domains are usually only for clerics who worship a god with them(or an ideal relevant to them, for non-deity worshipers). Thor would likely not be able to grant the Animal domain.
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2022-09-21, 09:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
I don't see why not. Thor married Freya who constantly has bluebirds singing around her, so I don't think he hates animals. And look at #1232 for how he explains why the goblins got the weaker end of the creation. “we were making an ecosystem. Things consume other things and get stronger, that's how it works. Plants absorb sunlight, animals eat plants, people eat animals, other people defeat them and gain levels. Then the worms eat everyone.”
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2022-09-21, 10:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-09-21, 10:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-09-21, 10:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
No, that's not the argument. #1099 first panel says that the church of Thor pays Tinna the cleric for working in astrology, and that's the only dwarven organization where Tinna could find such employment. So it's reasonable that Thor helps this in some way reflected in the game mechanics. I argue that the Animal domain should be what Thor gives to help this. Danielxcutter countered that that's impossible because Thor doesn't grant the Animal domain, but I don't see why he thinks that.
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2022-09-21, 10:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
Based on manuals, Thor Domains are chaos, good, protection, strength, war, and weather.
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2022-09-21, 10:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
First, it does not say that's the only Dwarven organization that pays for looking at the sky. Second, it's hardly surprising that the northern god of weather would have clergy who would be interested in the sky.
I would imagine there's no reason to think Thor grants the animal domain becuase nothing indicates that, except that he doesn't hate animals (and other claims that I think have similar validity).
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2022-09-21, 11:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-09-21, 12:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XIX - Nobody Cares about that Stuff Anymore
I am dubious as to if Thor and Freya are married.
So your arguement is that church of Thor is into astrology and therefore Thor may have the Animal domain - perhaps there is some connection between animals and astrology that I am missing but outside of providing the Knowledge (Nature) skill I am not seeing any (if is we are looking at the domains the Knowledge domain seems a better fit for stuff that might normally be considered astrology stuff).
The Plant domain also gives Knowledge (Nature) so probably as much justification for Thor granting it as the Animal domain.
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2022-09-21, 02:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Thor doesn't actually hate trees, therefore I hereby posit that he has the Plant domain rather than the Animal domain and this is a fact!
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2022-09-21, 06:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Regarding V's prior experience with astronomy, that might just be poking fun at 5e's backgrounds.
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2022-09-21, 09:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Also, unlike more "generic" domains like alignment-based ones, the Animal domain usually happens to be granted by gods whose portfolio is explicitly centered around animals or nature or something. And before you try to nitpick that, I mean in the "obvious druid-esque nature deity" sense for the latter.
I'd put decent money on it being in Fenrir's options, but I think there's also a Bestial domain or something...?Cool elan Illithid Slayer by linkele.
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2022-09-22, 01:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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