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    Default The Ultimate Dueliest Small Flightless Bird.

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    I want a small flightless bird to make into a anthropomorphic creature. Like a kiwi or something.

    If I kind find one, I'll be an Abrian.
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    I could swear the dodo bird was one of the options for an improved wizard familiar. But I can't find it anywhere. Maybe a fellow member of the playground can find something better suited to your needs.
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    Default Re: The Ultimate Dueliest Small Flightless Bird.

    Well, not exactly a Kiwi, but there's stats for a Penguin in Frostburn.

    There's also stats for Axebeak (A&EG), Ibis (Races of Faerun) and Terror Bird (Fiend Folio), but these are even worse fits than the Penguin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurbane View Post
    Well, not exactly a Kiwi, but there's stats for a Penguin in Frostburn.

    There's also stats for Axebeak (A&EG), Ibis (Races of Faerun) and Terror Bird (Fiend Folio), but these are even worse fits than the Penguin.
    Well, penguin has bad stats.

    Ibis could work. It's silly enough.

    Terrorbird is too bi- OJFBUEWIP WHAT IN THE NINE ABYSSES?
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    If you're a dodo, you have a good reason to take Wedded to History. Any of them work, but Elder of Legend is pretty funny. Whenever you enter a tavern, yell "Yes, it is I, the dodo-bird!", and watch the puzzled looks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowbluff View Post
    Terrorbird is too bi- OJFBUEWIP WHAT IN THE NINE ABYSSES?
    Is this a good OJEBUWIP WHAT IN THE NINE ABYSSES, or a bad OJFBUEWIP WHAT IN THE NINE ABYSSES? I ask to know if we should try to find more stats of birds or make suggestions for the Ibis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honest Tiefling View Post
    Is this a good OJEBUWIP WHAT IN THE NINE ABYSSES, or a bad OJFBUEWIP WHAT IN THE NINE ABYSSES? I ask to know if we should try to find more stats of birds or make suggestions for the Ibis.
    What can't it be both.

    BUt Ideally, a small bird is best. For comedy value. Maybe one with a somehow really good charisma.

    Ibis will have high wis, so maybe a monk, with Whirling Steel Strike (ECS).
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    Is this a good OJEBUWIP WHAT IN THE NINE ABYSSES, or a bad OJFBUEWIP WHAT IN THE NINE ABYSSES?
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    Default Re: The Ultimate Dueliest Small Flightless Bird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowbluff View Post
    What can't it be both.

    BUt Ideally, a small bird is best. For comedy value. Maybe one with a somehow really good charisma.

    Ibis will have high wis, so maybe a monk, with Whirling Steel Strike (ECS).
    What's that gif from? I recognize it but can't place it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronikoce View Post
    What's that gif from? I recognize it but can't place it.
    It's from the 2013 Rozen Maiden series.
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    Default Re: The Ultimate Dueliest Small Flightless Bird.

    I am not finding many stats on small flightless birds. Is there anyway you can compromise that? I think a hedgehog or puffin would be equally ridiculous. Further, if you change the puffin to a booby you get the benefit of causing immature jokes wherever you go.

    Also, I have no idea what that gif is from, but she must have awesome hair for it not to tangle at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honest Tiefling View Post
    I am not finding many stats on small flightless birds. Is there anyway you can compromise that? I think a hedgehog or puffin would be equally ridiculous. Further, if you change the puffin to a booby you get the benefit of causing immature jokes wherever you go.
    Flightless is ideal.

    Do you have a hedgehog or puffin? The Hedgehog would be great. One of the people hates Sonic, another is a huge fan.
    Also, I have no idea what that gif is from, but she must have awesome hair for it not to tangle at all.
    Kirakishou probably learned that from Princess Celestia.
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    Stats for a hedgehog familiar are presented on page 203 of the DMG. I assume that would work? You can even roll into a teensy, spiny, adorable ball!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honest Tiefling View Post
    Stats for a hedgehog familiar are presented on page 203 of the DMG. I assume that would work? You can even roll into a teensy, spiny, adorable ball!
    Well, technically it's not an animal. If it were. I would have a dex penalty from sizing up to small.
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    Have you considered the Wilora?
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    Have you considered the Wilora?
    No, but wow that is amazing. Unfortunately, that sounds best for a sneaky character. And it's crazy.
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    No, but wow that is amazing. Unfortunately, that sounds best for a sneaky character. And it's crazy.
    Throw on Weapon Finesse, perhaps? You could use its Polymorph ability to turn into whatever anthropomorphic, flightless bird you fancy.
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    Throw on Weapon Finesse, perhaps?
    No, I mean the 4 levels in abilities that don't make me a swordfighter.
    After that, it's a bit strong for this campaign. I think the DM would eye the double digit mental stat bonuses and dragon mag source with suspicion.
    You could use its Polymorph ability to turn into whatever anthropomorphic, flightless bird you fancy.
    But we don't have any kiwis. T.T


    Ibis is what I'm looking at.
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    If you're willing to go 3rd party, Troll Lord's Book of Familiars has stats for a ton of animals (be wary of some of their stat block, however, a Kangaroo is presented as the Fleshraker of the marsupial kingdom - 2d6+4 kick???) including Crane, Hedgehog and Peacock among others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurbane View Post
    If you're willing to go 3rd party, Troll Lord's Book of Familiars has stats for a ton of animals (be wary of some of their stat block, however, a Kangaroo is presented as the Fleshraker of the marsupial kingdom - 2d6+4 kick???) including Crane, Hedgehog and Peacock among others.
    I don't have that book.

    I think I'll go with Anthropomorphic Chordevoc.

    I think it's:
    Speed: 10 feet, 30 fly (average)
    Stats: +2 Str, +6 Dex, +2 Con, +4 Con, +6 wis, -2 Cha
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    How about the kakapo?

    It's the world's only flightless parrot, very long-lived, and also critically endangered, so they're extremely rare. Seems to fit the vibe.

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    Pathfinder has a dodo, if your DM will allow it.

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    How about the kakapo?

    It's the world's only flightless parrot, very long-lived, and also critically endangered, so they're extremely rare. Seems to fit the vibe.
    Unfortunately, DnD doesn't have stats for them. We don't have stats for a lot of comically adorable birds.
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    Unfortunately, DnD doesn't have stats for them. We don't have stats for a lot of comically adorable birds.
    Pathfinder has stats for them though! Saw them when looking for the dodo.

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    If you like, I can brew you up a kakapo.

    Just from glancing at it, I'm thinking Scent and Endurance, plus the equivalent of continuous feather fall from the wings.

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    If you like, I can brew you up a kakapo.

    Just from glancing at it, I'm thinking Scent and Endurance, plus the equivalent of continuous feather fall from the wings.
    Pathfinder has one.

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    The Pathfinder version is weak in the kakapo-Force. Mine would be better.

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    Pathfinder has stats for them though! Saw them when looking for the dodo.
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    THose are cool, but their stats are really bad, even after the changes from the template.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowbluff View Post
    THose are cool, but their stats are really bad, even after the changes from the template.
    Unfortunately, birds tend to have poor stats. It's looking like you should take Ibis or brew up something yourself.

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