OOTS #919 - The Discussion Thread

[Gil-Galad II]

It's feeling a little redundant already, but...welcome back, V! I wasn't expecting too much of the poor elf, but she's going to be great.

Am also looking forward to the inevitable Durkon/Vaarsuvius discussion...am not quite sure where it will go, but it'll be interesting.

No speculation now, though - time to break out the guano and party hats!

[hamishspence]

The first strip where I noticed a dramatic change in fire F/X was Malack's Flamestrike, although the ones here are not that bad. I don't recall any flame effects between those two strips. No doubt someone with more time on their hands than me could search through the archive for all the fire F/X used and write a scholarly dissertation on how they evolved over time.

This was the probably the last of the "old-style" fireballs:

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0168.html

after the art upgrade, they were always transparent.

[Kish]

Speak for yourself.

Well, I don't see a huge coconut bouncing off Vaarsuvius' head, so it appears you missed her/him, too. Better work on that aim.

[LadyEowyn]

YES!

The suspense we've been in for the last few comics is finally relieved. This is the comic I've been waiting for since #916.

I like V's correction in changing from the passive to active tense in panel 4; it's a good, subtle way to indicate continued efforts at an attitude adjustment.

[nonamearisto]

I literally can't make up my mind which super/action hero fanfare to play in my mind under this stirp. Go V!

Try the Johnny Cash song instead. Complete with the Mariachi trumpets.

[zimmerwald1915]

Well, I don't see a huge coconut bouncing off Vaarsuvius' head, so it appears you missed her/him, too. Better work on that aim.

Did I miss something? When, and by whom, was it decided that I threw coconuts?

[Rakoa]

Did I miss something? When, and by whom, was it decided that I threw coconuts?

Either you missed the joke, or you're just really pretentious. Also, you've used the word "whom" incorrectly.

[JT]

Either you missed the joke, or you're just really pretentious. Also, you've used the word "whom" incorrectly.

Missed the joke, too? There are going to be a lot of coconuts lying around!

However, "whom" is correct as used. It is used as the object of a preposition (by), and thus takes the objective rather than the subjective.

An easier way to check is to go by sound ... If you would use "him" then use "whom." If you would use "he" then use "who."

[DaggerPen]

Uh, can someone who got the coconut joke explain it to me?

[zimmerwald1915]

Either you missed the joke, or you're just really pretentious. Also, you've used the word "whom" incorrectly.

Thanks for the correction. And yeah, I guess I'm just really dense, because I read Kish's post to say that I'd missed with a coconut just as he'd missed with whatever his fruit is.

[DaggerPen]

I do not believe the answer to "When, and by whom, was it decided that I threw coconuts?" is going to be "him did," but rather, "he did," which would indicate the use of who, no?

No, it's a prepositional phrase. "By whom was the decision made?" "The decision was made by him."

[Rakoa]

No, it's a prepositional phrase. "By whom was the decision made?" "The decision was made by him."

I realized that about half a second after I posted. You're too fast for my own good.

Thanks for the correction. And yeah, I guess I'm just really dense, because I read Kish's post to say that I'd missed with a coconut just as he'd missed with whatever his fruit is.

Don't thank me. Turns out I was wrong.

[DaggerPen]

I realized that about half a second after I posted. You're too fast for my own good.

Finally, I get to live up to my icon.

[Kish]

Did I miss something? When, and by whom, was it decided that I threw coconuts?

*checks the timestamp on the post* At 7:26 Eastern time, by Kish. Was I mistaken? Were you throwing an axe or a spear at Vaarsuvius instead?

(No offense intended, of course.)

[Rakoa]

Finally, I get to live up to my icon.

That you do. And as for the coconut joke, Zim was just implying that he did not miss V, so Kish took him literally (as a joke) by saying that he did, in fact, miss V because the coconuts he threw didn't hit him (coconuts being a pretty common thing to fall on people's heads). I feel like I've sucked any potential humour out of that, but there ya go.

[zimmerwald1915]

*checks the timestamp on the post* At 7:26 Eastern time, by Kish. Was I mistaken? Were you throwing an axe or a spear at Vaarsuvius instead?

(No offense intended, of course.)

None taken. I just don't get the joke.

[DaggerPen]

That you do. And as for the coconut joke, Zim was just implying that he did not miss V, so Kish took him literally (as a joke) by saying that he did, in fact, miss V because the coconuts he threw didn't hit him (coconuts being a pretty common thing to fall on people's heads). I feel like I've sucked any potential humour out of that, but there ya go.

Oh! Ha. Yeah, okay, I get it now. Thanks.

[Kish]

None taken. I just don't get the joke.

It's a variant on the joke, "I still miss [someone], but my aim is getting better," where the point is that the first half of the sentence implies positive feelings while the second half clarifies that the sentence actually expresses hostility.

You might be the last person of the forum to regret Vaarsuvius' absence and thus miss her/him in that sense, but you'd be the first to throw something at her/him, which since nothing hit her/him suggests you missed.

[Joseph_Lavode]

Awesome. Just awesome. The Order has needed some moments like this. Worried it will force the members of Team Tarquin to take an active role in the battle, though.

[Orange Knight]

And BOOM! Vaarsuvius is back Epic entrance, protecting his friends (and hopefully less self pity this time) and a great last panel one-liner, fantastic. Plus a reference to Johnny Cash :)

I'm interested now to see what Tarquin and team will do now the fight has gone from entertainment to serious. Or when V runs out of spells.

[Honorius]

This is like the first time in a year that the OOTS is completely together.

[Raphite1]

Absolutely gorgeous art in this one, amazing work!

The layered fire effects, the number and detail of the soldiers, the dust, the distant view of the Order, all really great to look at.

[zimmerwald1915]

This is like the first time in a year that the OOTS is completely together.

Forgetting about Elan and Haley, are we?

[Honorius]

Forgetting about Elan and Haley, are we?

I mean everyone in the same general area.

[The_Weirdo]

I doubt V has enough dakka to level an army guite yet.

You clearly don't play with Evokers a lot. ;)

[zimmerwald1915]

I mean everyone in the same general area.

I hardly think that two areas separated by massed ranks of soldiery cound as one "general area".

[Theo333]

Is it time for a slaughter?

It's time for a slaughter.

[Honorius]

I hardly think that two areas separated by massed ranks of soldiery cound as one "general area".

Sure it does.

[TRH]

Is it time for a slaughter?

It's time for a slaughter.

Yeah, and when Tarquin and Associates get involved, V's sure to be the first to get slaughtered. She makes Black Mage look competent and lucky.

[ZLordZ]

After seeing V reunited with the team
there's one song that comes to mind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wt6XlVob_E

(OOTS theme song featuring the Gender Morphing Physics Bending V-Man. In the tune of the Mighty Morpin Power Rangers theme song).


They've got, a power and force that you've never seen before.
They've got, the audacity to warp all physics off ITS core.

No one, can ever take them down.
The power lies on their SIDE.

Go, Go, O-O-T-S
Go, Go, O-O-T-S
Go, Go, O-O-T-S, with Gender morphin' Flying V-man.

They know, that the fate of the world is lyin' in their hands.
They know, to only use their weapons, for defense.

No one, will ever take them down.
The power lies on their Side.

Go, Go, O-O-T-S
Go, Go, O-O-T-S
Go, Go, O-O-T-S, with Gender morphin' Flying V-man

Solo

No one, can ever take them down.
The power lies on their side.

Go, Go, O-O-T-S
Go, Go, O-O-T-S
Go, Go, O-O-T-S, with Gender morphin' Flying V-man
Go, Go, O-O-T-S
Go, Go, O-O-T-S
Go, Go, O-O-T-S...