Quote Originally Posted by Tendril View Post
This touches on what I feel is a pretty big issue with the rogue. If you want a sneaky character that's good at skills, you only really need 1 or 2 levels of rogue to make that happen. Why would I want to be a level 7 rogue when I could be a fighter 5 rogue 2? Especially when considering that rogue has the weakest level 5 in the game, lacking both 3rd level spells and extra attack.

Whenever I think of making a rogue I find myself thinking "What if I just played class X instead with a rogue dip?", and pretty much always I end up feeling like rogue isn't worth investing in.
This is just a framing issue. Rouges don't have a weak 5th lv as much as they don't scale in spikes so it's less noticable. The gap between extra attack and SA scaling at this point is tiny unless one or the other doubles down on damage via feat investment.