Quote Originally Posted by Skrum View Post
I'm assuming adv attack for each; reckless and rage for the barb and steady aim for the rogue. Basically, ideal conditions for both classes.

I'm using this to calculate it. My fav tool :)
I'm a bit confused. Using that tool, level 8 barbarian and level 8 rogue, 20 in primary stat, +1 greatsword for the barbarian, +1 short bow for the rogue, no GWM or SS, 8 required roll to hit (eg 16 AC target), both attacks with advantage from either reckless attack or steady aim.

The numbers the calculator seems to give are:

Barbarian: 24.18 from two attacks
Rogue: 22.33 from one attack

At level 9, the rogue goes to 25.74 with the increase in sneak attack.

So, baseline, the rogue is comparable to any other martial if you leave out GWM/SS/PAM/XBOW.

The problem would appear to be the damage increasing feats rather than the rogue itself in terms of damage comparisons between martial classes.

When looking at the monk in these comparisons, the value of stunning strike can't be underestimated. DPS may be a bit lower but crowd control is exceptional in many cases though until recently the monk was further penalized due to the lack of a magical weapon (+to hit/+dam) for their unarmed strikes.