What drives a poor reputation for the Rogue class?

[Witty Username]

No, and the adoption rate of D&D2024 is questionable. Also, it removes the ability for rogues to get sneak attack damage with reaction attacks (Battlemaster, Dissonant Whispers, OAs, etc.) so there's a net nerf at least for parties that work together to set up extra piles of d6s.

As I recall, that particular change was reversed in the playtest material.


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As far as I know from optimization circles,
First they said Ranger was the weakest class,
Then some said monk was the weakest class,
and some further still said the rogue was the weakest class,

And finally one said barbarian was the weakest class,
And all agreed barbarain was the weakest class

As a reminder of how tight this argument has been, I still think monk is the bottom of the barrel, but it is not a very deep barrel.