Quote Originally Posted by Amechra View Post
The thing about 4e is that you really can't trust people to be objective about it, because WotC messed up the PR for that edition so badly that a lot of existing D&D players were mad about it before they even opened up the book and tried it out. Don't get me wrong, the game was far from perfect... but I used to joke with my friends that people would've loved it if some 3pp had published it under the name Magic Sword (or whatever).
This. I think 4e has a lot of issues in terms of system variety but I think it's a fine game on its own. It'd fit right in with other game families that focus more on board game combat like ICON etc.