Quote Originally Posted by Rynjin View Post
Natural consequences aren't punishments.
Sure, but unnatural alternatives get to exist too. D&D worlds are full of things that wouldn't be "natural" by our standards. Like... portals.

Quote Originally Posted by Rynjin View Post
If the party Wizard teleports the group somewhere and the response is "well whatever you would have gotten here anyway" it shows a general contempt from the GM in my opinion.
Yet again - I think you're projecting some kind of bad GMing experience onto this conversation that has no alignment with my viewpoint