Stormcloaks Or Empire (One Of The Three Certainties Of Life)

[Cikomyr2]

Frankly, yes, I stopped after the first example of "Well it's not REALLY racism." You're making excuses.

Yes, it is racism, and yes, it's Ulfric's policy.

What great discussion fodder, admitting to just not read what the other person is writing.

Yhea, the racist organisation is giving grief to minorities for NOT joining their organisation. That makes complete sense.

Also, there's literally no difference of experience between playing as an Elf wanting to have in the Stormcloak as any other non-Nord. And any character joining the Stormcloaks are given the exact same quest to prove themselves. And nobody bats an eye about a non-Nord willing to join the Stormcloaks with the exception of this question: "why would a foreigner want to join the Stormcloaks", and the answer you can give is "Skyrim is my home".

Its not about race, its about actually calling Skyrim your home, and the people of Skyrim wanting to be governed by the people of Skyrim. Race plays a role in so far that most non-nord will not find the harsh climate of Skyrim to their taste. But lots of people do.

Stormcloaks are, first and foremost, about "Skyrim stop being governed by far away people". There is plenty of racist, xenophobic Nords.. everywhere in Skyrim. Its hardly proper to the Stormcloaks.

What about Riften, the other major Stormcloak hold? Big pro-Stormcloak Jarl there, and yet she rules over a (corrupt) integrated multicultural city.

Its almost like the designers tried to give human failings to individual holds. Again, racism against Dunmer is definetly a thing, and it is a thing in Windhelm. But Windhelm has also done more to help the Dunmer than any other Holds of Skyrim combined. Where are the dunmer refugees in Solitude? In Markath? In Riften?

There are none, because they weren't welcome.