Quote Originally Posted by tiornys View Post
They're crowd control at a power level that is appropriate to the system.
No, they are debuffs at a power level that is appropriate to the PF2 system (which is to say, very low). They're not crowd control; there is a difference there.

The extremely high impact level of many 3.5 and 5e spells is a primary factor in making those editions less tactical
Considering this is the 4E forum, I fail to see the relevance of this remark.