Spoiler: Destro and Haval
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"I once...worked...with a...person...whose great hero was Belisarius Cawl. He would tell me endless stories of what a great man Cawl was - a great innovator, a true scientist, he said," Hannabel replied in a muted voice.

"This person worked with the Countess for a very long time. They had a common interest, you see - they both wanted very much to replicate the means by which Cawl is said to have lived far beyond a man's allotted lifetime - far beyond even what augmentations and juvenat treatments allow. Actually, 'interest' is putting it lightly. It was their obsession, the overriding goal in everything they did, and I...I put an end to all that," she confessed.