The Noctuary (D&D 3.5e, Level 20+ Adventure)

[Feathersnow]

Correct. The "common" bonuses don't. These are stat boosts, resistance boosts, deflection, natural armor, and probably a couple of others. But it has to be in the right slot(I believe). This is covered by a thing towards the end of MIC, but I don't remember the exact page.

This probably won't effect One-Ear, but means Snixithrax has a little extra money.

Also- it doesn't specifically say I *can't* do this, so I made a custom Tiger Claw discipline item that had each tier, with the lower teirs at +50% cost. It was the easiest way to get pounce, although I am aware other, even easier ways probably exist, and there is actually a guide in GitP.

If that isn't okay, I can definitely re-do Snixithrax's items, given they aren't meant to be finalized.

I haven't touched retraining, right now I'm aware I have templates- LE bounty hunter or hopelessly naïve housecat, and more experienced players can tweak them if I'm accepted.

[chaincomplex]

The DM and I got into an argument and aren't currently on speaking terms. I'll check back later if he's come up with a ruling.

I'd assume +2 damage per instance (so each ray) like Archmage1. I can also switch if it is too much of an issue.

I've settled on an interpretation. Effects land once per casting per round per target. I don't know if anything breaks here but it seems to result in sensible outcomes for Fell Drain, so it should apply to Cold-Blooded too.

The MIC enchantment (p. 43) is a flat +5000 gp cost, so for an unorthodox "weapon" multiplied by 1.5 perhaps +7500 gp?

OK, +7,500 gp seems fair, given the standard magic item affinity rules.

@chaincomplex Extending increase reaches on both sides if we enhance it on one side of the quarterstaff from my reading. Is that how you read it?

Yes.

Jiang Liao, Heir of Ashardalon

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[Yas392]

@chaincomplex Came across a problem regarding weapon crystals for double weapons. If my quarterstaff has a +5 and +1 side and I inserted a greater crystal that requires a +3 weapon to activate, only the +5 side gain the benefit?

I believe no one bring up traits yet when we have flaws, are they available?

[Burning Spear]

Flaw: Honorable Challenge (-4 to hit vs targets that did not explicitly chellenged me)

If this one if ok, I am having it.

Could I refluff Blessed by Tem-Et-Nu? to fit in with in with Hathor/ Isis,
Tem-Et-Nu can be a demigod of Hippo's
Tem-Et-Nu could serve Isis, Hathor and Nephtys as a counter to Sebek and Set,

Would it be ok for my Main Scrub to take this feat?

According to Forgotten Realms Wiki:
Hippos were favored animals of the deities Hathor and Shajar.

I am "done" with my main, just adding fluff, and need some help (from the Dm, if I get accepted) finishing off buying items.
Working on Cohort sidekick.

[chaincomplex]

I'm pushing the deadline down to May 12 to give myself the weekend to look through all these sheets. I wasn't expecting this much interest.

@chaincomplex Came across a problem regarding weapon crystals for double weapons. If my quarterstaff has a +5 and +1 side and I inserted a greater crystal that requires a +3 weapon to activate, only the +5 side gain the benefit?

I didn't remember that quaterstaves had different enchantments on each head. Sorry, but I have to revisit my former ruling for extending: it shouldn't apply to both heads, to be consistent with this.

MIC is clear that the quarterstaff only has the one augment crystal slot. By the RAW it applies only to the heads that qualify, so yes, in your example only the +5 benefits.

I believe no one bring up traits yet when we have flaws, are they available?

Are any traits even of interest to a 20th-level character? I'm leaning towards rejecting traits to simplify character creation.

Flaw: Honorable Challenge (-4 to hit vs targets that did not explicitly chellenged me)

Go for it.

Could I refluff Blessed by Tem-Et-Nu? to fit in with in with Hathor/ Isis,
Tem-Et-Nu can be a demigod of Hippo's
Tem-Et-Nu could serve Isis, Hathor and Nephtys as a counter to Sebek and Set,

Would it be ok for my Main Scrub to take this feat?

Sure to the refluff... but to be clear, it's vanishingly unlikely for hippos to appear in this adventure. Never say never though, if you want to go to the Waterdhavian Zoo and rebuke all the hippos there, that's your prerogative.

[paradox26]

I appreciate the extra time. I should have my sheet up in the next 24 hours.

[paradox26]

Normally I wouldn't double post, but I figured my previous post may have been seen and so an edit may be overlooked.

chaincomplex, is it allowed to use the Mind Mage prestige class from Dragon Magazine 313? It advances both psionics and arcane magic, but for the first four levels only one at a time. It also has some psi-spell feats I would like the option of taking, if that is okay, and there are more in issue 349.

Also, is the Mul race from Dragon Magazine 319 okay to use?

[Auranghzeb]

Updated the single post submission with the background and added a link to a sheet where you can see the gear with it's price breakdown and the breakdown of ability scores. Light green cells indicate prices that do not get multiplied by 1.5.

Flaws and feats are indicated in the character sheet.

The numbers in the stat block assume the typical buffs (with war domain spells cast as swift actions) and essentia alocated to Incarnate Avatar.

I have two feats open at lvl 6 and 15 which will were extend and persist spell but those are boring. Maybe I'll pick double chakra or maybe just use them to pick up a martial maneuver and a stance. Hope it is okay that I leave them open as well as some 50k I need to spend (most likely in improving my speed somehow).


As for Flaws, I went with the theme of Lumis being righteous jackasses and picked Loudmouth and Aligned Devotion (can't heal evil dudes). Domo is old and cantankerous and he believes he is on his last glorious missions and getting too old for this sh..

Some notes on possible cheese:

TBH, besides being age Venerable to take advantage of the Saphire's Hierarch class feature, I avoided cheese (not even lvl 7-9 spells). That being said, the Lumis have some strong immunities and Domo can hit really hard between smites, PA, Greater Mighty Wallop and the Channel Spell ability. I'll also have the intention of Using Use Psionic Device to activate Hustle from the PsiCrown to move around. Other than that it is pretty straightforward. Probably If I get picked, I'll regret not having more cheese, but it is the risk at these high levels.

[Yas392]

Are any traits even of interest to a 20th-level character? I'm leaning towards rejecting traits to simplify character creation.

I just wanted spell gifted trait.

[Burning Spear]

I'm pushing the deadline down to May 12 to give myself the weekend to look through all these sheets. I wasn't expecting this much interest..

Go for it.

Sure to the refluff... but to be clear, it's vanishingly unlikely for hippos to appear in this adventure. Never say never though, if you want to go to the Waterdhavian Zoo and rebuke all the hippos there, that's your prerogative.

That's fine, thanks, I care more about the fluff it adds then if it gets fully used in game,

High Lvl games always gather far more interest then expected in my experience,

[Yas392]

Based on the notion traits are rejected and answers above, I think my character is done, fluff-wise and mechanic-wise.

EDIT: My character is straight out debuffer/minor battlefield control/attacker which I am satisfied with. Simple and straightforward. Though I used some cheese which is mild, I avoided action economy and higher exploits.

[Archmage1]

I'm pushing the deadline down to May 12 to give myself the weekend to look through all these sheets. I wasn't expecting this much interest.

Winnowing down 20+ characters is not a simple task, especially when so many of them are quite good. And, well... that's not something that we can really help with, as we would be biased.

[Burning Spear]

Talking traits:
Elder wisdom
You are much older than time itself.
Benefit: add your wisdom modifier instead of constitution modifier to your health.
Drawback: you must be 1000 years of age

Not sure if this is player made or not.. but that would fit to a tee!, seeing as I'm undead, lol, no con to speak of, so would legit be of use to any old undead.

[Archmage1]

Talking traits:
Elder wisdom
You are much older than time itself.
Benefit: add your wisdom modifier instead of constitution modifier to your health.
Drawback: you must be 1000 years of age

Not sure if this is player made or not.. but that would fit to a tee!, seeing as I'm undead, lol, no con to speak of, so would legit be of use to any old undead.

Alas, that's homebrew from dandwiki. A well known source of OP stuff.

The only comparable option I know of is the Faerie Mysteries Initiate feat, which lets you use intelligence, rather than constitution, for bonus hp. This is widely seen as incredibly OP.

[AvatarVecna]

Alas, that's homebrew from dandwiki. A well known source of OP stuff.

The only comparable option I know of is the Faerie Mysteries Initiate feat, which lets you use intelligence, rather than constitution, for bonus hp. This is widely seen as incredibly OP.

Kinda silly build: there's a few undead in 3m5 that get Cha to HP (technically an addition instead if a replacement), and there's a dragon mag swordsman PrC that gets Wis to HP on top of normal Con bonus. You could theoretically get all three mental stats to HP for several levels.

[Burning Spear]

Alas, that's homebrew from dandwiki. A well known source of OP stuff.

The only comparable option I know of is the Faerie Mysteries Initiate feat, which lets you use intelligence, rather than constitution, for bonus hp. This is widely seen as incredibly OP.

(I think the reason it's seen as OP, is for Mages, which are centric on 1 stat already anyway, giving them even more stuff based on a sole stat is indeed cheese.)

Yea, I am not looking for cheese, but I do think my build isn't as optimal as some if not most other app's, hence looking around for some fun traits led me to that,

So if the Dm finds my character lagging in the power department, he could allow it, to compensate.

Kinda silly build: there's a few undead in 3m5 that get Cha to HP (technically an addition instead if a replacement), and there's a dragon mag swordsman PrC that gets Wis to HP on top of normal Con bonus. You could theoretically get all three mental stats to HP for several levels.

As undead are very glass cannon imo, I never wanna hit 0 Hp, hence a good buffer would be nice, heh.
I don't get why not all undead get Cha bonus to hp, O.o

And class-wise I already have a line I wanna follow, don't want to deviate from that tbh. (Mystic Wanderer/ Divine Disciple/ Harper Priest)

[Aegis013]

Yea, I am not looking for cheese, but I do think my build isn't as optimal as some if not most other app's, hence looking around for some fun traits led me to that,

So if the Dm finds my character lagging in the power department, he could allow it, to compensate.

Considering the recruitment explicitly allows some final options to be left without selection and determined if accepted, I would hope that once submissions get selected we would discuss and review and try to bring our characters into some approximately similar optimization band to prevent any toes from getting figuratively stepped on. Thus, I'm not going to worry about lagging behind or getting ahead until selection.

Though with Incantatrix being explicitly allowed, I think we've got quite a bit of room to realize our concepts.

[Archmage1]

Considering the recruitment explicitly allows some final options to be left without selection and determined if accepted, I would hope that once submissions get selected we would discuss and review and try to bring our characters into some approximately similar optimization band to prevent any toes from getting figuratively stepped on. Thus, I'm not going to worry about lagging behind or getting ahead until selection.

Though with Incantatrix being explicitly allowed, I think we've got quite a bit of room to realize our concepts.

This is my thought as well. And one great thing about 3.5: There is a lot of flexibility in terms of power level.

[Burning Spear]

We're interpreting fractional BAB/saves as in Unearthed Arcana. You can get the +2 on good saves multiple times.

It's not lost on me that Pathfinder Unchained did it with more design coherency.

O.o whow, need to recalculate my saves then.
I only added the +2 once each.

Is a helm also good for a +Charisma item? (at no add. cost)

How can I justify 2 Nightmare Mounts for my chariot? (I did purchase 2 Helms of Opposite Alignment, to brainwash them to N.G.)

And I need some additional help with calculating my (Magic) Flying Chariot and Skull Plaque boosted with a personal Descecrate

[Aegis013]

Is a helm also good for a +Charisma item? (at no add. cost)

The table on pg. 234 of MiC says you can add +Cha to a Head or Shoulder item without additional cost modifiers (so +4k for +2, 16k for +4, or 36k for +6). It's quite nice since it allows you to stick magic items with more interesting functions in those slots rather than just having a bunch of items to get your character's numbers up to snuff.

Personally, I just sprung for the Belt of Magnificence since my build is incredibly MAD and it's slightly cheaper than getting all of the +6 enhancement bonus to attribute items. Fortunately the generous point buy helped alleviate the MADness somewhat.

[Burning Spear]

The table on pg. 234 of MiC says you can add +Cha to a Head or Shoulder item without additional cost modifiers.

Cheers, Hathor's Horned Helm of +6 charisma it is, lol.

Dm, quick question;
The Wildling Clasp, would this item work on the Bestial Form of the Glorious Servitor, just as it does for a Druid?

[chaincomplex]

chaincomplex, is it allowed to use the Mind Mage prestige class from Dragon Magazine 313? It advances both psionics and arcane magic, but for the first four levels only one at a time. It also has some psi-spell feats I would like the option of taking, if that is okay, and there are more in issue 349.

Yes to Mind Mage. This appears to be a strong PrC so use your judgment. I only skimmed the psi-spell feats, here's a blanket OK on the basis that they're flavorful, but I trust you'll let me know if anything is potentially broken.

Also, is the Mul race from Dragon Magazine 319 okay to use?

OK.

I just wanted spell gifted trait.

Based on the notion traits are rejected and answers above, I think my character is done, fluff-wise and mechanic-wise.

As you surmised, I'm going to just say no to traits.

The Wildling Clasp, would this item work on the Bestial Form of the Glorious Servitor, just as it does for a Druid?

Yes. It's RAW even, MotW clarifies that it applies to transformation magic effects, which by any reading would include Bestial Form which is noted to be polymorph-like.

[Burning Spear]

Yes. It's RAW even, MotW clarifies that it applies to transformation magic effects, which by any reading would include Bestial Form which is noted to be polymorph-like.

Cool, you're the first DM to actually say yes, for some reason most DM's don't agree on this premise.

[Yas392]

As you surmised, I'm going to just say no to traits.

My "based on the notion" post was responding towards the post "leaning toward rejecting traits." Just double checking because I can't read the tone in this response. This is due to the lack of posts on responding to or arguing towards wanting traits on top of simplifying character creation, right?

[Burning Spear]

Build-wise, my main scrub is done, just wanna add some more fluff to justify her becoming a mummy, and I have to correct her saves.

[chaincomplex]

My "based on the notion" post was responding towards the post "leaning toward rejecting traits." Just double checking because I can't read the tone in this response. This is due to the lack of posts on responding to or arguing towards wanting traits on top of simplifying character creation, right?

Yep, you got it. If this was Pathfinder I'd open traits and drawbacks because they're more interesting and embedded. In 3.5e they're shoved deep into the annals of UA and I didn't want to include yet more UA systems without having a clear-cut benefit to opening up character or campaign options.

[paradox26]

I finally had the time and opportunity to get my sheet into shape. Unfortunately my partner came down with Covid tonight, so I had to scramble to look after her. I haven't picked skills or spells/powers know yet, but the first post says that is acceptable. I have picked my main magic items, but there will be others. Mostly it will be staves, wands and dorjes, just for variety.

Varis of Tyr: https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2900287

[Book Wombat]

Myria Demesne is similarly incomplete, although in items (such as demiplane contents) rather than powers.

[chaincomplex]

OK, I'm closing to further interest. Thanks for all the interest so far!

Just as a quick check, I'd like everyone interested to please make sure the character table is up to date for your submission.

You'll have another half-week or so to mess around with your character while I continue to look at sheets. I'll give my thoughts and pick a slate of players Soon^TM.

As a final note, GentlemanVoodoo has volunteered for something like a co-DM. They want to run NPCs. It's a slower paced role since not every scene/encounter will include one of their NPCs, which combined with PbP pace means it's very slow, but I find the concept intriguing and want to give it a shot, since it adapts well to the pointcrawl format.

I finally had the time and opportunity to get my sheet into shape. Unfortunately my partner came down with Covid tonight, so I had to scramble to look after her. I haven't picked skills or spells/powers know yet, but the first post says that is acceptable. I have picked my main magic items, but there will be others. Mostly it will be staves, wands and dorjes, just for variety.

Varis of Tyr: https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=2900287

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Myria Demesne is similarly incomplete, although in items (such as demiplane contents) rather than powers.

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[Aegis013]

Good luck to all of the applicants.