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2015-02-02, 08:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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2015-02-02, 08:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #974 - The Discussion Thread
GREAT Page. I somehow get the feeling that turning Crystal into a golem is going to bite Bozzok REALLY hard at some point.
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2015-02-02, 08:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2015-02-02, 08:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #974 - The Discussion Thread
Plot exposition! Elan would approve.
Bozzok and Grubby, ha.
More gnome hats and a gnome with flower in her hair.
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2015-02-02, 08:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #974 - The Discussion Thread
From Grubwiggler's point of view, bringing together all the people he hates - Bozzok, Crystal and Haley - means there's a good chance at least one of them will die. Even if he's not planning betrayal, it's a start. (This was a crucial plot point in one of Vance's Demon Princes series.)
Crazy ideas: What if it's not really Crystal in there, but a creature of Grubwiggler's, and the reason it chased them around the corner was so Bozzok couldn't hear it betraying him. And what if one of the characters figures out what's happened to Durkon by analogy with what was done to Crystal.I prepared Comic Sans today.
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2015-02-02, 08:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #974 - The Discussion Thread
He knew they were heading towards the north pole with an airship. There surely are't many places where you can get a refuel on route.
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2015-02-02, 08:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #974 - The Discussion Thread
How does one pronounce "SCCHTRLK!!" anyhow?
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2015-02-02, 08:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #974 - The Discussion Thread
Every now and then, you can tell when the Giant is just sick of the rampant speculation in the Playground. 'Here is a thorough and completely canonical explanation. Now for the love of God stop arguing.'
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2015-02-02, 08:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #974 - The Discussion Thread
So, she isn't a normal flesh golem; there is something different in her creation. Good to know. I really want to see Grubwiggler backstab Bozzok in some way. Maybe he created Crystal to help get his revenge too?
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2015-02-02, 08:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #974 - The Discussion Thread
Man, all these gnomes wearing hats makes me think this is Gnome Fortress 3: Steampunk edition!
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2015-02-02, 09:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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2015-02-02, 09:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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2015-02-02, 09:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #974 - The Discussion Thread
Lol. My thoughts EXACTLY.
I expect to see some Author Commentary in the next book on this very page; "Now everyone on the forums had their panties in a twist with what Crystal was, how she got there, and who brought her back. There was so much arguing and speculation, I decided "Screw IT!" and just cast 'Summon Plot Exposition!"
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2015-02-02, 09:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #974 - The Discussion Thread
Who is 'Starshine's ally', dead Roy?
And have people argued over HOW exactly they managed to keep Crystal's skills?
I like how there's always time for a joke. Or 2.Last edited by goto124; 2015-02-02 at 09:11 AM.
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2015-02-02, 09:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #974 - The Discussion Thread
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2015-02-02, 09:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #974 - The Discussion Thread
Hmmm... I wonder how Bozzok plans on countering the rest of the Order?
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2015-02-02, 09:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2015-02-02, 09:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #974 - The Discussion Thread
I adhere, I thought the exact same while I was reading
A lovely strip, great exposition and references to clarify this messed up issue. I liked the last joke very much, simple and strong, refreshengly reminded me of the humor in the first hundreds of strips.
Newbie question, though: is there such thing as "crystal golem" in any D&D manual or it is just a pun based on Crystal´s name? If such creature exists, is she, in fact, a crystal golem?Last edited by Brumagris; 2015-02-02 at 09:28 AM.
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2015-02-02, 09:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #974 - The Discussion Thread
I think his cooperation is based on the fact that Bozzok could easily... let's call it "dispell the Raise Dead cast on him". He may try to backstab Bozzok when the opportunity arises (maybe the Crystal Golem has an override that turns control back to him?), but right now, he might as well cooperate and get yet another enemy out of the way and lull Bozzok into a false sense of security in a single move.
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2015-02-02, 09:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #974 - The Discussion Thread
No. More like when I introduce something that's not immediately apparent, I always have a plan for, at some point, explaining what's going on—it's just that everyone spends all their energy arguing about it from the moment it shows up that by the time I get around to explaining, everyone else is so sick of arguing and speculation that they project their feelings on to me.
I'm explaining these things now because to not do so at some point would be a glaring omission, nothing more. What people speculate about on the forum doesn't really matter to me very much. If I really just wanted to shut up forum-goers, I would just post a clarification here, not spend comic time explaining something that I don't think needs explaining.
For example, people have been confused about how Bozzok found them, and I assure you no explanation is forthcoming in the comic beyond the information already revealed, because it can be easily deduced and it doesn't need further dwelling upon for the story to make sense.Rich Burlew
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2015-02-02, 09:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #974 - The Discussion Thread
Meh, too much exposition.
thog want return to actionLast edited by littlebum2002; 2015-02-02 at 09:49 AM.
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2015-02-02, 09:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #974 - The Discussion Thread
To the folks wondering: finding Haley is easy, Bozzok had enough of her hair to make Grubby a wig. Certainly more than enough to pay for a quick scrying.
I was totally thinking it could be either or both of these
That was kinda obvious from the fact that it had class levels.Plague Doctor by Crimmy
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2015-02-02, 09:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #974 - The Discussion Thread
Nice! Update! I like Grubwiggler's open mind about deals -even if deals with thieves and thieves' guild had never ended alright with him- Also, I'd never understood why Bozzok prefer Crystal that much. He's clever enough to know she's "dumber than a brick", no matter how good as a killer she is/was.
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2015-02-02, 09:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #974 - The Discussion Thread
My thought was that he was a minor character (at least in the webcomic), and he only got killed off in the print edition so most readers of the webcomic probably won't know about his death (I knew from talk on this forum). So maybe Rich simply decided he wanted him after all and that he could safely have such a character rezzed without running the risk of cheapening the deaths of major characters. [Also he can use it to show that Bozzok is high-level (commanding such resources) and mention Bozzok's motivation (Haley's supposed hoard.)]
I enjoyed this strip, some good jokes. I guess the Gnometown arc is going to be longer than expected...
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2015-02-02, 09:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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2015-02-02, 09:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Wait, she got high a lot? She really is a Crystal Meth golem? That was my joke guess!
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2015-02-02, 10:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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2015-02-02, 10:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #974 - The Discussion Thread
Anyone else think that Bozzok comes across as "evil-er" than previously? He seemed a lot more "practical evil" before. This is probably his true colors showing.
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2015-02-02, 10:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #974 - The Discussion Thread
Exposition is everyone's job, so says Elan. Otherwise it will happen during an important action scene.
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2015-02-02, 10:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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