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    Default (open) Heavens Above - Submission Thread (5e subclass contest)

    Welcome to the 5e Subclass Contest 42!


    Congratulations to the winner of our last contest, Vogie with the The Serial Arsonist Rogue!

    Our voted theme for this next contest is...

    Heavens Above: Look far above to read omens, see celestials, or just move straight up.

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    • The subclass you homebrew should fit the theme. You can interpret the theme as broadly as you like without risk of disqualification, but doing so may reduce your chances of earning votes during the voting period.
    • You may only create one subclass. If you create more than one subclass then you must choose which one to enter and remove all the others from this thread and the contest (making them invalid). If you do not specify which one you favor by the time voting begins, all of your content is invalid.
    • When you submit your subclass you must create a post on this thread which either has the content or holds a link to it. You may also optionally create one other individual thread for your class on the homebrew design sub-forum. If it is found that you have revealed your class on another site or on another thread than one on the homebrew design sub-forum, your entry will be considered invalid. If you do make a specific thread for your class, please mention its involvement to the competition in that thread. If you use external formatting resources such as Homebrewery, or GMBinder it is recommended that you also create a PDF of the content and share it here.
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    • Your subclass must have fully completed mechanics and descriptions for it to be valid. Entries are due by 11:59 PM Central Time on the deadline. Any submissions after this point are invalid. No changes can be made to your class while voting is taking place. Failure to comply with the previous rule will result in disqualification.
    • Any content which has been declared invalid by the rules above cannot be voted for, but you may decide to remove it from the contest and create another subclass instead. If you are disqualified then you are not allowed to enter any more homebrew for this competition, though you may still vote and later enter the next competition.
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    Deadline: June 9th will be the deadline for this contest. The voting thread will open the following day and stay open for 2 weeks.
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    Default Re: (open) Heavens Above - Submission Thread (5e subclass contest)

    Hmm.

    Not sure where to go with this, but a provisional placeholder for the Skystreak Acrobat, fighter subclass.

    Lets add in the scaffolding as I build this thing.

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    A fighter subclass with exeptional mobility and the ability to use that to its advantage.



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    OK, so the big issue here is avoiding stepping on the toes of the monk and to a cetain extent rogue. Mobile martial with dexterity focus is pretty close so ALL the other features need to set it appart.

    Monk has wisdom as a secondary stat - this will be purely physical
    Monk has some defensive features: evasion, buffs to saves, deflect arrows and of course unarmoured defence. This will be a bit less multi-layered in defence
    Monk suffers for damage due to not working with the weapons that get the best feat support - this will therefore get some damage boosts naturally by being a fighter but will need to offer something a bit extra
    Monk has stunning strike, one of the best control abilities on a martial - I can't totally forgo control or the won't be anything left to the class, but I can make it spread a little more thinly.


    If an issue is sailing through the air, how does tis stand out against a caster that can cast fly?



    The Skystreak acrobat is often associated with elemental cults of Air, and simply for those with a love of the open sky. It is a path of joy, of freedom and unadulterated delight in soaring through the heavens.


    Physical Prowess
    At level 3 the skysreak acrobat becomes adept at making powerful and eleant jumps with exraordinary physical control. Whenever they would take a strength (athletics) check other than to make a grapple they may instead make a dexterity (acrobatics) check instead. In additon dexterity not strength is used to determine their maximum jump distance. Their movement speed and jump distances increase by 5ft whilst not wearing medium or heavy armor. These increase by a futher 5ft at levels 7, 10 and 15.

    Vault
    Also at level 3 the Acrobat learns the secrets of incorporating their great leaps and vaults into their combat style. When taking the attack action an acrobat may replace an attack with a leap of up to their normal jumping distance. This leap does not use any of their movement allowance and does not trigger an attack of opportunity. If this leap is of greater than 10ft and if it ends next to a hostile creature you may attept to knock it off balance as if you had shoved that creature.

    Stick the Landing
    Your focus on acrobatics pays off with . At level 3 whenever the acrobat makes an ability check modified by proficiency in acrobatics they may add double their proficiency bonus to the roll instead. As a reaction, whenever you would take falling damage you may reduce the number of dice rolled by an amount equal to half your number of levels in this class rounded up.

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    So this is... not complicated, but coming under a lot of headings.

    There are a few things I want to establish here.
    1) flavor. You are an acrobat. Expertise in acrobatics seems a must. Likewise the ability to fall better than other characters.
    2) An action or a choice. Something active to do. I fault the champion for being uninspiringly passive at this level. Vault gives a bit of extra mobility to close the distance on turns you are out of reach.
    3) Setting the role as a mobile fighter. Some boost to movement speed helps show this.

    Despite coming under 3 headings I don't think its as cognitively demanding as a rune knght, batte master or eldritch knight with the choices to make. I think at this level the overall power is OK as a lot of the benefits are niche and somewhat in for flavor.

    I think Vault is of note being on a fighter chassis. Giving up one attack to get advantage on the others is generally not a great trade but fighter in tier 3 gets 3 attacks and it starts to look a lot better. Add in action surge and it looks better still. Of course its a small upgrade as you can, by default, still sacrifice an attack to shove an enemy and it just adds some extra mobility at this level.


    Buffet
    At level 7 you are lifeted aloft by the air itself. You may expend a use of your Second Wind ability to gain a flying speed equal to your walking speed for one minute. You may not use this ability if wearing meadium or heavy armor.


    Reflexive Grace
    Your shoves and kicks lead naturally to landing attacks in the openings they generate. At level 7 whenever you knowck an enemy prone as part of your action, you may make a single attack agains that enemy as a bonus action.

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    Well arcane casters have been flying for a couple of levels now if they wanted it (though with a not inconsiderable cost), so I don't feel bad about adding some limited flight. Its not free and as its tied to second wind you can only ever do it as once per short rest.

    Reflexive grace is kind of important. The class has abilities around closing with enemies and a dex theme (things not working with heavier armours for example). The good close combat weapons in terms of feat support are strength based. Ranged weapons are less good for knocking enemies down. Basically, your bonus actions are going to be free without GWM or PAM and this helps (slightly) keep your damage up a bit.

    Another level with two abilities, but they didn't seem to fit under one heading.



    Spring to Action
    Tappng into your physical reserves gives you an extra burst of speed. At level 10, whenever you expend a use of Action Surge, Indombitable or Second wind you may make a leap up to your maximum jump distance as part of using that resource. This movement does not provoke attacks of opportunity.

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    Fighter level 10 abilities are not usually earth-shatteringly powerful (though some are cool). This isn't a big deal either. Its a set of small mobility boosts to help you bounce in and out of combat. Of possible note is using things like indobitable to move out of spell areas of effect as a reaction which may occasionally be useful



    Fleet of Foot
    At level 15 you have mastered being light on your feet. You may take the dodge action as a bonus action.

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    his is a big one. Of course with the lack of heavy (or medium) armor and given the level its at, you wil hardly be unhittable and a bonus action is a real cost... still I think this is still going to see some use.



    Elemental Attunement
    You harness the deeper connection you have with the elemental plane of air. You may cast each of the following spells once per day and then may not cast it again till you complete a long rest. Each requires verbal components only:
    Zephyr Strike
    Thunderous Smite
    Gust of Wind
    Warding Wind
    Gasious Form
    Wind Wall

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    I find spells carry a lot of flavor. A smattering of air themed spells feels like it should enhance the feel of the elemental connection. At this level a thunderous smite or Zephyr strike probably won't feel that special, but there are a selction of spells that are sometimes useful and other characters ae less likey to have. The once per day casting also encourges thier use - there are no spell slots to keep to use for something else. In terms of spell level you are behind Eldritch knight. In terms of freedom to chose good spells you are even further behind (as it should be)



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    This needs quite a bit of work still.
    1) Elemental attunement comes out of nowhere. The air/sky theme has been almost entirely non-magical till this point so it seems an odd pivot that cashes with the rest of the design. Whilst balance-wise some of these could come at an earlier level without an issue, it would be loading the class with a lot of features.
    2) The abilities are, at present, too niche or of marginal value. Speed and mobility is good, but there are some diminishing returns to that... and you could still play an archer to the same effect most of the time. Furthermore, feats lke mobility and fey touched let other classes get similar mobility and a subclass on top.
    3) Knocking people prone as part of an attack/leap is not great (given that only the leap element is a bonus). Between things that are too big, things immune to being knocked prone, things tha flat-up pass and things where the sacrificed attack would just kill them anyway its hardly a good core of the subclass.


    Fixes considered:
    1) When leaping, get a damage bonus for every 5ft Jumped for that turn. Scales naturally with both increased jump distance and number of attacks. Stipulate a light weapon for this. It would even make two weapon fighting good at higher levels.
    2) I need to emphasise the "above" element. At the moment a lot of the day to day features will be leaping with little vertical component. Something to add some more soraing feelings and leaping over people would be good.
    3) Want to rewrite some of the descriptions to play up the elemental air theme.
    Last edited by MrStabby; 2024-05-13 at 03:41 AM.

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    Default Re: (open) Heavens Above - Submission Thread (5e subclass contest)

    Still generating ideas...

    Placeholder for Heavenbolt Warrior. Fighter subclass.

    Ideas: +Lightning damage vs. evil enemies.
    Able to call down heavenly lightning
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