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    Default Re: Junkyard Wars XLVII: SLAs + Breath Weapon - Dragonfire Adept (VOTING OPEN)

    No disputes here! Thanks for judging!

    Edit: The only quibble I would have is that points were awarded nearly equally for one unexpected class as they were for like three unexpected classes. But that's not like actually to the level of a dispute.
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    Default Re: Junkyard Wars XLVII: SLAs + Breath Weapon - Dragonfire Adept (VOTING OPEN)

    Thank you for the speedy judgements: I'll await the disputes.

    And to answer your question about Epilogue: I actually struggled a lot to find a nice class to stick in front of the Risen Martyr 6 I knew I wanted to take (Risen Martyr 7 directly antisynergizes with Vow of Peace and the features beyond that aren't great either), and after considering paladin for a while, I ended up doing soldier of light because it was just sliiightly better than paladin and I liked the idea of getting an incorporeal minion to scout through walls. So in brief, it's not that SoL 3 and 4 were particularly good levels, it's that they were a defensible and somewhat original/elegant way to fill in two levels that the build needed filled.
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    Default Re: Junkyard Wars XLVII: SLAs + Breath Weapon - Dragonfire Adept (VOTING OPEN)

    Quote Originally Posted by Inevitability View Post
    And to answer your question about Epilogue: I actually struggled a lot to find a nice class to stick in front of the Risen Martyr 6 I knew I wanted to take (Risen Martyr 7 directly antisynergizes with Vow of Peace and the features beyond that aren't great either), and after considering paladin for a while, I ended up doing soldier of light because it was just sliiightly better than paladin and I liked the idea of getting an incorporeal minion to scout through walls. So in brief, it's not that SoL 3 and 4 were particularly good levels, it's that they were a defensible and somewhat original/elegant way to fill in two levels that the build needed filled.
    That makes sense. I missed how bad Risen Martyr 7 was, and the Energon Companion is definitely sweet.

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    Default Re: Junkyard Wars XLVII: SLAs + Breath Weapon - Dragonfire Adept (VOTING OPEN)

    I'll admit, with ten entries I'm surprised that no one used Breath of Siberys.

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    Default Re: Junkyard Wars XLVII: SLAs + Breath Weapon - Dragonfire Adept (VOTING OPEN)

    I might have some disputes.

    Some are how I understand the rules.
    Some are from interpretation. But I think might be the right reading. I could be wrong tho.

    Thank you very much for your judgement nontheless. I am glad to have participated and happy with the result. It was a fun and exciting experience.

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    Default Re: Junkyard Wars XLVII: SLAs + Breath Weapon - Dragonfire Adept (VOTING OPEN)

    Quote Originally Posted by Condé View Post
    I might have some disputes.

    Some are how I understand the rules.
    Some are from interpretation. But I think might be the right reading. I could be wrong tho.

    Thank you very much for your judgement nontheless. I am glad to have participated and happy with the result. It was a fun and exciting experience.
    Better to dispute and find out it's you who misunderstood something than never dispute at all - PMs are free!
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    Default Re: Junkyard Wars XLVII: SLAs + Breath Weapon - Dragonfire Adept (VOTING OPEN)

    Thanks for the quick judging!

    Table.

    # Name Alignment / Race Class Levels Chef FactualArcher Total Place
    1 Kazarhak LG Dragonborn of Bahumut Goliath Dungeoncrasher Fighter 6/Binder 4/Gold Dragon Samurai 9 13.75 13.75 6th
    2 Sarah Silver joins the Junkyard LN Silverbrow Human Elemental Companion Aspect of the Dragon Druid 20 12.75 12.75 9th
    3 Dracus CG Half-Battle Dragon Dragonborn of Bahumut Elan Lion Spirit Totem Skilled City-Dweller Barbarian 2/Skilled City-Dweller Totemist 2/Dragon Shaman 4/Bard 1/Master of Masks 2/Dragon Disciple 4/Half-Dragon Savage Progression 2/Half-Dragon Paragon 3 13.00 13.00 8th
    4 Ghidorah TN Sylph Wilderness Companion Sorcerer 1/Incantatrix 4/Wyrm Wizard 3 14.75 14.75 5th
    5 Aiyana ?? Dragonborn of Bahumut Silverbrow Human Immediate Magic Combat Dead Levels Wizard 2/Master Specialist 3/Incantatrix 4/Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil 7/Wurm Wizard 2/Archmage 2 13.50 13.50 7th
    6 DR-460 LG Dragonborn of Bahumut Warforged Warforged Dragonborn Charging Smite Curse Breaker Dead Levels Paladin 8/Shadowcaster 3/Mystic Theurge 8/Brimstone Speaker 1 18.00 18.00 1st
    7 Azorgkhal LE Dragonborn of Bahamut Lesser Aasimar Dragonscale Husk Duskblade 3/Dragonblood Sorcerer 2/Talon of Tiamat 4/Divine Crusader 1/Dragonheart Mage 10 15.75 15.75 3rd
    8 Horatio H'Wyrmbreather NG Dragonborn of Bahamut Factotum 20 16.00 16.00 2nd
    9 Purplebreath Crystaltongue CN Silverbrow Human Dragonblood Planar Sorcerer 5/Dracolexi 10/Mindbender 1/Nightmare Spinner 4 15.25 15.25 4th
    10 Epilogue NG Faerie Dragon Soldier of Light 4/Risen Martyr 6 Inevitability N/A N/A N/A
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    Default Re: Junkyard Wars XLVII: SLAs + Breath Weapon - Dragonfire Adept (VOTING OPEN)

    I've had no disputes yet: I'll keep my inbox open today and tomorrow, and close the round if I get nothing.

    Votes for the next round are still welcome of course!
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    Default Re: Junkyard Wars XLVII: SLAs + Breath Weapon - Dragonfire Adept (VOTING OPEN)

    One dispute!

    Quote Originally Posted by Aiyana Spiritshard
    Thank you for judging!

    You don’t actually explain how you get Miracle as an SLA, but the Spell Like Ability high arcana that you seem to be using only works on Arcane Spells, which miracle certainly is not. -1
    Spell research(Miracle), Wurm Wizard class feature, is listed in the level breakdown section at 18th. Since Miracle is now a part of the Wizard spell list, this should work.

    You retrain two feats, which won’t necessarily be legal in a lot of campaigns. -0.5
    Feats are not retrained. One is lost since the human bonus feat is removed due to dragonborn template. The second is is traded in via dragonborn rules since dex falls to make Aiyana no longer qualify for dodge.
    It is true that this is not fully explained, but I am already penalized -0.25 for not explaining things sufficiently well.
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    Dispute response:

    You are correct on both counts. Both penalties are removed. +1.5

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    Default Re: Junkyard Wars XLVII: SLAs + Breath Weapon - Dragonfire Adept (VOTING OPEN)

    # Name Alignment / Race Class Levels Chef FactualArcher Total Place
    1 Kazarhak LG Dragonborn of Bahumut Goliath Dungeoncrasher Fighter 6/Binder 4/Gold Dragon Samurai 9 13.75 13.75 7th
    2 Sarah Silver joins the Junkyard LN Silverbrow Human Elemental Companion Aspect of the Dragon Druid 20 12.75 12.75 9th
    3 Dracus CG Half-Battle Dragon Dragonborn of Bahumut Elan Lion Spirit Totem Skilled City-Dweller Barbarian 2/Skilled City-Dweller Totemist 2/Dragon Shaman 4/Bard 1/Master of Masks 2/Dragon Disciple 4/Half-Dragon Savage Progression 2/Half-Dragon Paragon 3 13.00 13.00 8th
    4 Ghidorah TN Sylph Wilderness Companion Sorcerer 1/Incantatrix 4/Wyrm Wizard 3 14.75 14.75 6th
    5 Aiyana ?? Dragonborn of Bahumut Silverbrow Human Immediate Magic Combat Dead Levels Wizard 2/Master Specialist 3/Incantatrix 4/Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil 7/Wurm Wizard 2/Archmage 2 15.00 15.00 5th
    6 DR-460 LG Dragonborn of Bahumut Warforged Warforged Dragonborn Charging Smite Curse Breaker Dead Levels Paladin 8/Shadowcaster 3/Mystic Theurge 8/Brimstone Speaker 1 18.00 18.00 1st
    7 Azorgkhal LE Dragonborn of Bahamut Lesser Aasimar Dragonscale Husk Duskblade 3/Dragonblood Sorcerer 2/Talon of Tiamat 4/Divine Crusader 1/Dragonheart Mage 10 15.75 15.75 3rd
    8 Horatio H'Wyrmbreather NG Dragonborn of Bahamut Factotum 20 16.00 16.00 2nd
    9 Purplebreath Crystaltongue CN Silverbrow Human Dragonblood Planar Sorcerer 5/Dracolexi 10/Mindbender 1/Nightmare Spinner 4 15.25 15.25 4th
    10 Epilogue NG Faerie Dragon Soldier of Light 4/Risen Martyr 6 Inevitability N/A N/A N/A

    Updated table. I'll reveal tomorrow morning (ca 20 hours from now) if nobody else disputes.
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    And like that, it's over.

    # Name Alignment / Race Class Levels Chef FactualArcher Total Place
    1 Kazarhak LG Dragonborn of Bahumut Goliath Dungeoncrasher Fighter 6/Binder 4/Gold Dragon Samurai 9 AMFV 13.75 13.75 7th
    2 Sarah Silver joins the Junkyard LN Silverbrow Human Elemental Companion Aspect of the Dragon Druid 20 Nikorasuko 12.75 12.75 9th
    3 Dracus CG Half-Battle Dragon Dragonborn of Bahumut Elan Lion Spirit Totem Skilled City-Dweller Barbarian 2/Skilled City-Dweller Totemist 2/Dragon Shaman 4/Bard 1/Master of Masks 2/Dragon Disciple 4/Half-Dragon Savage Progression 2/Half-Dragon Paragon 3 RaiKirah 13.00 13.00 8th
    4 Ghidorah TN Sylph Wilderness Companion Sorcerer 1/Incantatrix 4/Wyrm Wizard 3 Condé 14.75 14.75 6th
    5 Aiyana ?? Dragonborn of Bahumut Silverbrow Human Immediate Magic Combat Dead Levels Wizard 2/Master Specialist 3/Incantatrix 4/Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil 7/Wurm Wizard 2/Archmage 2 Rebel7284 15.00 15.00 5th
    6 DR-460 LG Dragonborn of Bahumut Warforged Warforged Dragonborn Charging Smite Curse Breaker Dead Levels Paladin 8/Shadowcaster 3/Mystic Theurge 8/Brimstone Speaker 1 loky1109 18.00 18.00 1st
    7 Azorgkhal LE Dragonborn of Bahamut Lesser Aasimar Dragonscale Husk Duskblade 3/Dragonblood Sorcerer 2/Talon of Tiamat 4/Divine Crusader 1/Dragonheart Mage 10 AMFV 15.75 15.75 3rd
    8 Horatio H'Wyrmbreather NG Dragonborn of Bahamut Factotum 20 quetzalcoatl5 16.00 16.00 2nd
    9 Purplebreath Crystaltongue CN Silverbrow Human Dragonblood Planar Sorcerer 5/Dracolexi 10/Mindbender 1/Nightmare Spinner 4 Macaberet 15.25 15.25 4th
    10 Epilogue NG Faerie Dragon Soldier of Light 4/Risen Martyr 6 Inevitability N/A N/A N/A

    A thank-you to all contestants, particularly AMFV, quetzalcoatl, and of course our winner loky! I hope to see all of you in the next round.

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    And our new round is up!
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    First of all I want to say thanks for FactualArcher, Inevitability and other contestants! This was very interesting round.

    Secondly... Wow! I really didn't expect gold or even place on the podium for that entry! It was made as joke entry with curiosity instead of real feat as the base. In my eyes it was low Power and average Elegance entry. Looks I underestimated it!

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    1) To FactualArcher. I like your judging and I like very much you repeated your questions every tame in every paragraph, but... it'd be more better if you highlighted them with some formatting. Bold maybe.

    2) To AMFV.
    At this point our character has shifted from a follower of Bahamut to a Tiamat Worshipper. And we get to play as a fallen Dragonborn, there are notably no mechanical consequences for this, but it is a really interesting thing.
    This isn't true.
    Quote Originally Posted by TARNISHED DRAGONBORN (RoD, p. 15)
    As an individual dedicates her life to Bahamut’s cause and becomes a dragonborn, she is committing herself to fighting against Tiamat’s spawn. She must do this to the best of her ability. Reasonable breaks from this activity for gaining allies, recuperating from battle, and gathering resources are permitted, but any form of evil behavior is not.
    ...
    If the dragonborn refuses to atone for her evil ways, Bahamut renounces her as his child and takes back the dragonborn form
    he granted her. A tarnished dragonborn feels her skin crack, peel, and slough off. Her limbs twist, and her form distorts. This painful process of transformation reversal lasts for a number of rounds equal to her Hit Dice and deals 2d6 points of damage per round. At the end of this change, regardless of whether she survives, the dragonborn returns to her original race and form.
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