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2024-02-19, 10:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1298 - The Discussion Thread
Which means they would be the same size category, since each size category is supposed to be twice the previous. It's a conundrum, since Allosauruses are Huge, the oldest Huge Red Dragon is Mature Adult, and a Mature Adult's caster level is 9th. You need at least 15 to cast Polar Ray, so your choice is he's actually Gargantuan and Rich didn't care to draw it, or Rich made the odd choice of a Mature Adult dragon with 6 levels of caster classes stacked on top.
I have a feeling Roy could pwok it back even were it held.
Concentration requires a standard action each round to maintain, so without looking it up I'm guessing it doesn't.
It should be suppressed, like the magically conjured stone that Sunny passes through.Last edited by Tubercular Ox; 2024-02-19 at 10:57 AM.
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2024-02-19, 10:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1298 - The Discussion Thread
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2024-02-19, 10:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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It's like Roy said: Belkar is dangerously good at this adventuring biz when he tries, and he brought his - and Bloodfeast's - A-game to this fight! :D
I wouldn't count Calder out yet, but this should definitely cramp his style for a round or two. More if Bloodfeast manages to hang on and keeps doing damage.
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2024-02-19, 10:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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YES! Go Bloodfeast! All of us are rooting for you! We love you! As a wise bugbear once said: CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP! (Somebody really should look out for V, though. That ground is so not gonna feel good.)
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2024-02-19, 11:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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This is exactly what an 3.5e Allosaurus gets: A bite that functions as an Improved Grapple, and is what permits the raking attacks with the claws. The Giant might be taking some license with that, since the grappled creatures are supposed to be in a smaller size category than the Allosaurus (which is Huge and about 36 feet long; Calder is probably also Huge, since he looks older than Adult in age).
What I want to know, is how is Calder still flying! (I always assumed dragons' puny wings, relative to their body sizes, were assisted by magic in keeping them in the air).
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2024-02-19, 11:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Nope. The domination spell is on Sunny and Sunny only. It would be suppressed if Sunny was in an anti-magic field, but it doesn't matter for it if Calder is. He's still the dominator that Sunny obeys.
The same way a summoner who then cast anti-magic shell on himself can still give orders to summoned creatures outside the shell. That's why, in some circumstances, silence can be more handy than anti-magic.Spoiler
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2024-02-19, 11:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Along with panels 5 and 6 here, this strip gets added to my "how did he have time to say all that" list.
Still awesome though.Last edited by enq; 2024-02-19 at 11:21 AM. Reason: I can TOO count
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2024-02-19, 11:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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It has been noted a few times that Bloodfeast looks bigger than an allosaurus should be, so it's not impossible he'd be one size category larger thanks to the improving monsters rules. It wouldn't surprise me, indeed, that the Empire of Blood has a special allosaurus breeding program aimed at selecting the biggest and strongest individuals for their arena games and for war parties.
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2024-02-19, 11:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Came to mention Chekhov, saw it mentioned twice already. Awaaaay!
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2024-02-19, 11:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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I can't find Allosaurus stats for 3.5e, but the T-rex entry allows for Gargantuan size with enough HD advancement. All we have to do to make sense of older that Mature Adult (which is kind of necessary for him to be a challenge for an Epic party) is assume that Bloodfeast is an extra-strong dino. Tarquin's sense of the dramatic would likely encourage him to make sure his showy arena dino was as big and tough as possible, particularly when he's the type to view "the attraction is eating the audience!" as bonus entertainment.
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2024-02-19, 11:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Rich doesn't go by strict 3.5 rules, especially when the result is awesome-sauce. Which this result is.
As noted, Rich doesn't go by strict 3.5 rules. If he wants to give Sunny a new "saving throw" which he succeeds at because Calder is being chomped, I shall not quibble.
It would be sad if Bloodfeast were to be trapped inside Calder's room until he died of old age because he's too big to leave. I don't think that's going to happen.
I don't think Rich is going to do "concentration" exactly by 3.5 rules. If he wants Sunny to break free by sheer willpower (and thereby grow up a little), it can happen.
There's some things (like, e.g., Mage Hand) that work on unattended objects but not on ones held by a hostile creature. Calder evidently believed he could prevent pwoking.This ... is my signature finishing move!
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2024-02-19, 11:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'd be surprised, but I wouldn't quibble either. I was answering a question about concentration per-the-rules, whatever happens in the conics happens.
Then again, I feel like people sometimes overblow Rich's rule-independence. He does what he needs to, but spells almost always work how they work by the rules.Screaming defiance with the last breath
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2024-02-19, 11:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'm with Belkar. That was cool.
And incredibly funny.
Small harmless GLRK indeed.
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2024-02-19, 11:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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That is an extremely triumphant return for Bloodfeast.
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2024-02-19, 11:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Ah, thank you, a bit different from 5e allosaurus.
What I want to know, is how is Calder still flying! (I always assumed dragons' puny wings, relative to their body sizes, were assisted by magic in keeping them in the air).
1. Calder's tactics are good.
2. Roy picking up Minrah is to me a better idea than Haley flying down, as she might get nicked by the anti magic beam.
3. V's gonna get a bruised bottom upon landing.
4. Bloodfeast's "Gyaaa!" was a great response to Belkar's asking if he's ready for the show.
5. When Belkar puts his mind to it, yes, he's pretty good at this adventuring stuff.
6. Minrah's "I'm not made of legs like you are" got a chuckle out of me.
7. Oops, Roy loses control of his sword, yet again.
8. I note that one of Haley's arrows bounced off of Calder's hide. Not sure what Armor Class she's dealing with.
9. CHOMP! Great splash panel.
10. At long last, Bloodfeast the Extreme-inator makes his terrifying return. (Ref 923 through 926, and 1239)
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Back in 1239.
As soon as s/he's out of the beam, which the second-last panel shows doesn't reach the ground at its current angle, the Overland Flight spell will kick back in.Last edited by Debatra; 2024-02-19 at 11:29 AM.
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2024-02-19, 11:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
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Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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2024-02-19, 11:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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I have been waiting for this moment for... *counts*... ten years, and it's finally here!
EAT GIANT LIZARD YOU... giant lizard?Why has Cinco de Mayo broken out on my battlefield?
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2024-02-19, 11:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
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2024-02-19, 11:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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There is a Hover feat in Monster Manual II that allows this, and nearly every statted dragon in Draconomicon has it.TinyMushroom drew my avatarSpoiler: A shaggy dog storyAn evil sorcerer in command of a dark cult is trying to unleash a god-killing abomination more real than the gods themselves. At his side, yellow eyes revealed a Haunter of the Dark. The evil sorcerer ordered it to kill.
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2024-02-19, 11:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Actually now that I think of it - Sunny's beam should presumably cancel any magical defenses on the walls, right? So maybe Calder can just start smashing an exit path?
Or even possibly some of the walls are magic like in the tunnels? And Sunny's beam could open up a hole?
We know they teleported somewhere but where exactly?
Are there near the place with the doors?
Thanks. Too bad Durkon already spent his Silence spell on Greyview for the day.
Though I thought his commands to Sunny can be done telepathically?
Wasn't his previous bubbles more thought bubbles than speech bubbles?
I remember V having mental commands when they dominated the Kobold from the Linear Guild.
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2024-02-19, 11:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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I don't think I've ever been this early, but WHOOOOOO BLOODFEAST THE EXTREME-INATOR!!!
*CHOMP!*Last edited by Crimson Barrel; 2024-02-19 at 11:46 AM.
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I had a real good feeling when I saw Belkar's expression in panel 7. God damn, is Bloodfeast's return satisfying as all hell.
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2024-02-19, 11:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Can Bloodfeast straight up decapitate Calder? The faster the Order wins this, the more of Serini's begrudging respect they might earn.
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I totally called that.
Guess we'll find out soon if I was right about the other half of that prediction."Thursdays. I could never get the hang of Thursdays."-Arthur Dent, The Hitchhiker's Guide
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