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2024-02-04, 04:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Flatly asserting that something is bad writing without support is also not a convincing argument. And you did catch that you were explicitly more than four years off in your "not in the comic in five years or more" claim, right?
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2024-02-04, 06:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
I made a webcomic, featuring absurdity, terrible art, and alleged morals.
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2024-02-04, 06:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-02-04, 06:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Weird plural in "years" there considering it hasn't even been a year
It's a common problem in the medium for reasons that don't have to do with writing quality, but rather with the nature of the production and how it's released. If a comic is being made by a single artist and distributed page-by-page, chapters and books can take a long time to finish being made. Secondary characters (or even main characters) being absent or out of focus during specific chapters or books is entirely normal, it just takes longer for a webcomic to cover that space.
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2024-02-04, 06:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
I will give you one thing - Ashley being able to tell Liz about her magic/etc was built up as being an important thing for her during the "Title Pending" party arc, and Liz hasn't even appeared since, let alone that conversation being shown. (And Ashley has suffered from a degree of Flanderisation to boot)
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2024-02-04, 06:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Sure thing. There are absolutely legitimate criticisms that can be made of EGS. (Whether the one I put in the thread title turns out to be legitimate is currently up in the air, in my view.)
I just don't think "this webcomic writer hasn't mentioned that character in a while (as the plotlines deal with other characters), clearly they forgot that they exist" qualifies as a legitimate criticism.Orth Plays: Currently Baldur's Gate II
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2024-02-04, 07:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-02-04, 08:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
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2024-02-05, 07:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Yes? You entered that contact to do the food delivery job to voluntarily exchange your time and labor for currency, presumably after reading it, and can terminate that contract at any time. If you don't like your situation you can seek employment elsewhere or perhaps by selling your own goods produced by your labor, maybe you will get good enough to hire people to help you, then you will be the capitalist who will treat your employees better than you were treated.
Sad truth is, all survival requires labor, whether yours or someone else's. To say that you shouldn't have to means you are taking time and labor from someone else.
Be that as it may the person at the top is still a person with their own thoughts, feelings, perspective and ideals and deserves the same level of justice as the person at the bottom. Full stop.
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2024-02-05, 08:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Yes, but that's because he made the bigger mistake of forgetting the Demonic Duck.
Also I mostly brought up Noah because this seems like a natural arc for him to become important again. EGS suffers from being published slower than it's number of plot arcs would ideally benefit from, but it's not as bad as it could be.
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2024-02-05, 12:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-02-05, 02:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
In a war it doesn't matter who's right, only who's left.
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2024-02-05, 03:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-02-05, 05:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Diane was never a person Pandora indicated caring about.
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2024-02-05, 06:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Not even once! Pandora cares about her descendants a great deal, but she only knew Diane was family for maybe a day.
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2024-02-05, 06:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Not until she found out she was her granddaughter, and that only close to the last minute. At which point, things changed.
Last edited by Reboot; 2024-02-05 at 06:16 PM.
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2024-02-06, 01:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Well, no because I had thought we were talking about the belief that Noah should have been in the recent just completed chapter, not a previous one that actually did have Noah in it. Also, I don't really count it as visiting a person when the person doesn't know you were there.
Last edited by Devlerbat; 2024-02-07 at 02:16 PM.
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2024-02-06, 07:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
I feel that, if anything, the comic gradually shifted away from a big, epic narrative to a more slice of weird, magical life type of story. We still get big arcs with fights and clear villains, and there is an overarching narrative, but consider how many pages have been devoted to, for example, Susan's conflicting feelings about Diane and Raven, or Elliot coming to terms with his gender identity and transformation forms.
Noah was introduced back when Dan was writing a different story, one that looked like it was barreling fast towards epic conclusions. His introduction as a super-duper special guy is almost concurrent with Lord Tedd, a character Dan has explicitly said he regrets having introduced before the time was right.
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2024-02-06, 08:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
If that were the case, the shift to a more character-driven drama was made many years ago - decidedly earlier than Noah was introduced. The whole "New and Old Friends" and "Night Out" parts happened even before "Painted Black" and we had a first glimpse of Noah in the subsequent arc. It has been even more time before he properly appeared in the comics - way after a whole arc about school uniforms and Grace's party that I'd say cemented the focus on the characters and their relations.
In a war it doesn't matter who's right, only who's left.
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2024-02-13, 08:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Whichever the comic is going, I'm here for it.
The slice of life is fun, the grand plot can be very surprising and exciting. And the overall setting is fascinating.
Like I said: I'm here for it.
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2024-02-14, 02:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Still curious how Susan fits into this arc. I'd been assuming she was going to have her own B-plot because I couldn't see her coming to the game, but I'm kind of second guessing that instinct now.
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2024-02-19, 06:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
I'm not really surprised by how Grace behaved, but it is kind of funny as it looks as if she played a game of "Hi, have you met Tedd?"
In a war it doesn't matter who's right, only who's left.
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2024-02-19, 11:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
I like that Tedd and Grace are rocking a couples look. ^_^ With Grace even using her shapeshifting to augment it.
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2024-02-21, 09:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Increasing convinced that Susan's showing up for this tournament.
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2024-02-21, 11:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
I'm concerned that we'll see Ellen's dragon powers resurface because those three revolutionaries with the staff will steal away Nanase's 'royal' aura.
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2024-02-21, 11:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
I don't think that's very likely. She's too manifestly both good and politically powerless.
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2024-02-21, 02:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Warning: This posting may contain wit, wisdom, pathos, irony, satire, sarcasm and puns. And traces of nut.
"The main skill of a good ruler seems to be not preventing the conflagrations but rather keeping them contained enough they rate more as campfires." Rogar Demonblud
"Hold on just a d*** second. UK has spam callers that try to get you to buy conservatories?!? Even y'alls spammers are higher class than ours!" Peelee
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2024-02-21, 02:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
What's It?
If you mean, who is their current target, their description doesn't fit any character who's been introduced.
If you mean, who is Dan planning to have them steal a royal aura from, I think y'have multiple assumptions there that I don't share.Orth Plays: Currently Baldur's Gate II
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2024-02-21, 02:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Somebody speculated earlier they eventually run into Edward and that makes sense to me, because he's the only 'royal' figure we know of who meets their assumption that anybody with a royal level of magic must be a powerful figure in a position to influence things without being overtly or publically in control (because this side of the world doesn't automatically equate powerful magic with leadership.) Even if they do find Nanase or Rhoda they're unlikely to try to steal their magic, because they're trying to do this ethically (within a .. certain definition of ethics) and Nanase and Rhoda aren't in charge of anything that they can point at and say 'you have been abusing your magic and the privileges that affords you, so we are justified in taking it from you and using it to help our own people.'
Edward actually -is- (or was) a powerful magician in a secret position of influence, so he's an acceptable target to take from, and dramatic irony arises from him being actually legitimately a good person rather than using that position for self advancement or to try to abuse the public in some fashion.
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2024-02-22, 11:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Well that's not who I was expecting but I was wondering when this character would show up again.